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Thinking Like a Mountain.
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the old wolf in time to watch
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dying in her eyes. I realized
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and have known ever
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those eyes - something
known only to her and
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I was young then, and
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I thought that because
fewer wolves meant more

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deer, that no wolves
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But after seeing the green
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I sensed that neither
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agreed with such a view.
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that just as a deer herd
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so does a mountain live
in mortal fear of its deer.

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And perhaps with better
cause, for while a

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buck pulled down by wolves
can be replaced in two
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years, a range pulled down

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by too many deer may fail
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So also with cows.
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who cleans his range
of wolves does not realize
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the wolf's job of trimming
the herd to fit the range.

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He has not learned to
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Hence we have dust bowl,
and rivers washing the future

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into the sea.
Aldo Leopold, A
Sand

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County Almanac. Powerful
words.

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Welcome to the first
event in the University of
Northern Iowa's inaugural

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installment of the Aldo
Leopold Distinguished
Lecture Series. My name is

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Eric O'Brien, and I am
the Director of Sustainability
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University of Northern
Iowa. I greatly appreciate
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the opportunity to provide
this welcome. Over the
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the academic year, the
UNI community will
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of playing host to esteemed
guests from diverse

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backgrounds to educate
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our campus community in
the spirit of the values

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so eloquently presented
by Aldo Leopold.
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himself was a native
Iowan, born in Burlington
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Growing up, he developed
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in the outdoors and natural
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Leopold was, throughout
his life, at the forefront
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movement and is widely
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conservation in America.
By striving, as we just
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to "think like a
mountain", Leopold
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of conservation history.
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influence in the trends
that have reshaped
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science, policy, and
practice since his works
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published. Some of our
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include Pulitzer Prize
Winning authors, a White
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of Change, and a
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Throughout this series, we
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perceptions, raise the
level of discourse, and
inspire action

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within our campus community.
I'll close this

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welcome with one
final quote from
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Conservation is a state
of harmony between
men and

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land. By land is meant
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over, or in the earth.
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is like harmony with a
friend; you cannot cherish

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his right hand and chop
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is one organism.
That quote exemplifies
the goal of the Leopold

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Lectures to provide a
unique set of opportunities

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throughout our academic
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the natural world. I would

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now like to introduce
Audrey Tran Lam, who will
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opportunity to welcome
our featured speaker
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manages the community
environmental health
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Center for Energy &
Environmental Education
at UNI. Audrey currently

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oversees the statewide
Good Neighbor Iowa
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of which is to improve
children's environmental
health. Audrey.

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Thanks Eric, thank you
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off this lecture series. This
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you to our evening sponsors.
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Education, Series Trust,
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Carver Charitable Trust,
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Developmental
Education. Let's quick thank
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This event and the entire
Leopold Lecture Series
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and preserved in the
UNI Archives. The
next event

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in the series will be an
evening with Pulitzer
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Elizabeth Colbert on The
Sixth Extinction and her
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hosted in the Strayer-Wood
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So hopefully many of
us will be able to attend
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Now though I am fairly
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the University's over
100 year history in
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is not new to me.
UNI has really set itself
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state universities and
it's commitment to
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childhood education and
development. And given
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that I do in the Center for
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Environmental Health,
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Jennifer Lowry tonight.
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biography. So much so that
I almost feel like I need
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introduce her. She is a
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and Professor of
Pediatrics at the University
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School of Medicine.
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Pharmacology, Toxicology,
and Therapeutic
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Mercy in Kansas City
where she also the Director
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PEHSU, the Pediatric
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a fantastic resource to
all of us, but one that I am
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work at the University,
so thank you. Dr. Lowry
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American Academic of
Pediatrics Executive
Committees Council on

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Environmental Health
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Advisory Committee. Now
if that's not impressive
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difficult to say, she has
authored and co-authored
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papers that contribute
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on toxicology and
children's environmental
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what she's talkin about
with all this. However,
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her resumé is so
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She is so personable and
so sweet that I'm not
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thriving in an environment
where she can work so
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with that, please help
me welcome Dr.
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honored and humbled
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very much appreciate it
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right here. What's your
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Penny. Alright. So
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Just very happy that I
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people here. I was
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and talk to you about
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we would start the series
with protecting children,
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learn, and play. I do
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do receive funding through
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Specialty Unit, which
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by the Agency for Toxic
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agency at the CDC.
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Environmental Protection
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kind of give you a little
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in our environment with
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you know what, we're
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and more important.
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sources of environmental
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ask and talk about ways
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ways that risk can be
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questions, I'm a pediatrician,
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recent things that have
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pediatric environmental
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of Pediatrics says. The AP

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is a member of 67,000
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pediatricians on why
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questions during all those
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visits that they have. It's
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pediatricians have to spend
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safety and poison
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in that poison prevention in
that part. And I think we're
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that pre-conception,
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they're gonna have kids.
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or at least the exposure
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stages all the way to that
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exposure and then starting
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per pound of body
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8 ounce bottles every
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about the children of
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these were kids who were
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lead level after they had
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lead level during that time
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smoking. They eat
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of body weight and
so they're always just
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two weeks ago
when we were talking
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baby foods, at least
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be on the news about
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the stuff that is in our
baby foods. And they
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right. I mean right now
we only have so many
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do we need to do to
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and better for her. And
clearly their behavior is
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little bit older and not
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mouth but when we have
little kids and it's a high
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see the peeling paint
chip on the windowsill,
and lead is sweet so we

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go and we peel it off and
we're gonna at it cause
we're gonna put things

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in our mouth all the time,
they're curious, and so they're
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they can't protect themselves.
They don't vote, so we
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a little more detail of
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and what's different, even
in the birth to 2 month old
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3-5 and the 6-11.
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and eat and that's about
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and then over time, the
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they look the way they're
supposed to look, but those
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been made yet and
so the kidney is
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actually form and put
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proteins that your liver
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to metabolize them, many
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3 to 5 years of age.
Our brain isn't done
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isn't done really until
25, that's where I was
getting the adolescence

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part to. And so all those
connections, and the
myelination, and all of that

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where we go from not being
able to have much thought
to having

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concrete thought, to then
having abstract thinking
and to be able to put it all

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together, that's a long
time. And so think about
things that happen

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while that's happening.
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done until adolescence.
So think about the smoker.

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Think about vaping.
Think about all of
those things

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that kids are getting
into and being exposed
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through that time.
They're curious. They
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rolling to crawling to
walking to running and

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all of those things can
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and interrupted if
something gets in the way.

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And then kids, or course,
they got work, they go to
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they go play outside and
we're gonna talk about all
of things in a little bit.

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So all of those chemicals
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introduced into the
body and can cause
harm

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and again, we'll address
that. Alright, so

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where do children live?
This is where some
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I did not see a place
like this in Cedar Falls,
but there probably could

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be and as a pediatrician,
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don't necessarily ask.
We used to do the home
visit, we used to do house

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calls where we'd go out
and we'd see our patients
in the place where

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they are and we don't
do that anymore, they
have to come to us, so we

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don't know. We ask the
questions. We assume
they're telling us the truth,

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but I can show you pictures
of homes where people
live

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and they're doing the best
that they can but they
are in poverty or

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at least living in

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places that they can
barely afford because
they work two jobs.

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But this is where they
can live. And in fact

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80% of the people in
the United States live in
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I drove from Kansas
City, clearly, today, and
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of farmland and smaller
communities but the
majority of people

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congregate in cities and
90% of the people spend
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time indoors, or spend
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That's probably even
more now that we are
in a social media

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age where we don't have
kids who want to go
outside and play or we're

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too afraid to let our kids
go outside and play and
so they stay inside and

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they're on their cell phones
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of the world population
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lot of it had been to do
with the industry

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at the time. So when
it was really cool to
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and drive around and
show that you had

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the wealth enough to
do that, but in order to
have a car, you had to

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have the road and you
had to kinda get the
trolley and those kind of

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things out of the way.
So those things got shut
down so we can actually

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have our car and our one
car, or our three cars, or
our five cars that

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only I am going to drive
and I'm not gonna carpool
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this is mine and I'm not
gonna share. And so
we had these single

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passenger automobiles
and the communities
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have now are designed
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we don't have the

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street lights, we don't have
sidewalks, we don't have
things for kids actually used

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to go out and play. We
have the road. We have
actually a lot of

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paved roads and
concrete and less green
space

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because we have to
actually have parking
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in order to do that, and
that started just back in
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the car was made and
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No pun intended.
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A lot of us see a lot of
people live in different
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and again, as a
pediatrician, I have to
ask these questions. It's

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really hard when you only
have 15 minutes and you
have to kind of delve into

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it like where do you live?
An address can be helpful,
especially with Google

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Maps now right. You can
just type in and address
and it comes up and you can

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show the front of the house,
but you have no idea what's
going on on the inside of the

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house, unless they've sold
it recently and so you can
go onto Zillow or Trulia and

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then you can look and see
what's inside their house
before they bought the house.

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But that doesn't actually
how they are living. And
what,

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and so I'm gonna go
a little bit into

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what parents don't want
to talk about, is that
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You have to actually think
of the home as an organism
and how it

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all works together.
So our environmental
health program, we actually do

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home assessments and I
have industrial hygienists,
basically, who go out to

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homes and help these
families understand how
ventilation is supposed to

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work and how just because
you close off a room
over here,

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if you've left that vent on
whatever is happening in
there, it's

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gonna go through the
intake and then go
around to the rest of the

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house. I had a family
that I saw who's

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home was found to actually
have asbestos in one of
the rooms, and so they

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needed to have it removed
and they had actually
taken some of the stuff

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down and then I didn't
realize it was asbestos until
later and so a lot of

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it was dust by the time
they realized. So they
just

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closed the door and locked
it so the kids wouldn't go
in without shutting off their

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vents. And so then
we had asbestos
going around the house

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and again a conversation
of how that works.

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Many families don't
know that. I'm sure
some of you own

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homes or least rent
and apartment. How

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often do you change
the furnace filters?

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These young kids
here,

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they probably are like,
"I don't know, someone else
takes care of that", and I can

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tell you that most landlords
are not changing them at
least every 3 months

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that you're supposed to,
if not every 30 days,
depending on what that filter

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is. So these are questions
that we have to have with
our families

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to understand where they
live. The National

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Center of Healthy House
or Healthy Homes, they
have healthy homes

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principles. Keep it dry.
Keep it clean. Keep it
pest-free. Keep it ventilated.

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Keep it safe. Keep it
contaminant-free and keep
it maintained. And this

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seems like simple things
that we should be able
to tell our family, but

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we see families a lot who
come in and they say
they've got mold

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growing in my bathroom,
and they've called,
unfortunately, they

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called their homeowner's
insurance and said, "I have
mold", and as soon as you

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say the m word, all bets
are off, they're not gonna
help you because

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they don't do mold.
So we have to instruct
our families, you have a

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water problem and where
is that water problem and
it's actually somewhere else

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probably above where that
mold is and how are we
gonna fix it.

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The mold may be causing
the health effects, but it's
the water problem that we

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need to fix and how are
you gonna get it done.
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that water problem may
have mold, but also it
causes structural problems

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with the house then actually
lead into pests into your home

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and so what the families do
is they see

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the pests and then they go
and buy the pesticide to
get rid of the

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cockroach that's coming
into their home or the
mouse that's coming in and

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so we're gonna put stuff
down, when they actually
just need to take care of the

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water problem and then fix
the home so the pest didn't
come. But we end up trying to

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be more reactive than
proactive, so we as a
community have to kind of

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change our way of
thinking so that we can
be preventative rather

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than reactive. So we also
have to keep it healthy.

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So I mentioned this
already. There have been
a number of things in

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the news over the last
several years on
contaminants

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in food and I get quite
a number of questions
about this and in fact

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I was interviewed by like
three different news
agencies

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in like two days on all
of the things that happened.

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So it was glyphosate in
oat cereal and it was
heavy metals in

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baby foods and

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I think there was lead
in water or something.

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Of course. Anyway, I kept
getting them all mixed 'cause
it's like, you know,

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there's always something
in something and I had to
like figure out which one they

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were asking me about. They
were like, "No, I asked you
about lead in sweet potatoes"

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and I'm like, "I'm on
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So we know that this stuff
is in us, so how are we
supposed to

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to educate our families so
that they know what to buy

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and that was the common
question amongst all
these interviews is what

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are you gonna tell parents
about what foods
because I want to grow

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organic then right because
I don't want to go and buy

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the jar in the grocery store
because clearly the carrots
and that sweet potatoes

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has high lead levels
in it and I don't want that.
Well, if you

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buy organic, arsenic is
organic. It's naturally
occurring and we

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know that arsenic was in
brown rice syrup and in
rice so then

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what rice are you gonna get.
So the FDA says, "Well just
know where your rice is being

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grown". Okay, if I go and
look at Uncle Ben's, it
doesn't tell me where my

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rice is being grown and
I have no idea. So Consumer
Reports, they put

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out this, you can't see it,
especially those of you who
choose to sit in the back,

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sorry about that, but if
you go to this Consumer
Reports article,

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it actually does talk about
rices from Texas are

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of the highest in arsenic.
Do you know if your

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rice is grown in Texas?
I certainly don't. The
reason that we have

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arsenic is rice is because
of where it's grown in
Texas, Louisiana,

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and in the southeast,
just because that's where
our cotton was grown

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and so it's a very kind of
wet area

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and we used to put
arsenic down as a
pesticide. So it was a

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pesticide that as put down.
And arsenic doesn't go
anywhere.

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It's a metal. It stays
around for

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centuries and so it's
gonna be incorporated
into

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the plant because it's in the
soil and it's gonna be
incorporated into it

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and then it's gonna grow in.
And so when the

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Consumer Reports and
the folks at Dartmouth
went and measured it, they

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found these elevated
arsenics. And of course
there was an uproar, 'cause

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how could there be this in
there? Because it's
naturally occurring in the

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soil and we're gonna have
it in there. The problem is
that the FDA

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does not have any

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regulatory standards for
arsenic. The UK had
actually started looking

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at it and put a limit of
50 parts per billion
in their

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apple juices I think it was,
but the USFDA

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didn't do that. And in fact,
there was a study that was
done that looked at

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all the rice products from
adult rice to infant
toddler

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rice cereal and snacks
and whatever,

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infant toddler rice and
cereals and snacks

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actually had the highest
amount, up to 150
parts per billion

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of arsenic in it, whereas
all of the adult ones were
less than 50.

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So what is it that we

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know that we get arsenic
out of adult

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rice cereals, but we
can't get it out of

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the infant toddler ones?
And than what is the first
food that we recommend

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families give their children.
Rice cereal.

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And so you can imagine
the questions that now
start coming to us

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of "What do I feed my child?"
was now, you can give rice

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cereal, but let's use a
varied diet. So
even oats

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is good. Oh wait a second,
what just happened. We
have glyphosate

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in oat cereal now. Well
we have glyphosate
everywhere

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and then I know I'm speaking
to the choir on this one,

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and so now it's now just
oats. So we have to keep

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playing catch up and we'll
talk about what we can do
as a community

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in a little bit. But it's
really, really, really
hard to keep it healthy

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when we still get
bombarded with this
kind of

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media and what's
in our children.

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So this is from
healthychildren.org. It's
a good website from the

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AAP, the American
Academy of Pediatrics.
It's the public

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version to help parents and
the public on what to do.

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So, we have offered ideas
to families and to parents

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to buy fresh or frozen
vegetables,

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not ones that-

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obviously cans can
actually have- we didn't
talk about food additives

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can have BPA, err
not BPA, 

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a bisphenol, whichever
bisphenol alphabet
soup we're on right now

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can be the lining in a
can and that can be-

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and so you can have BPA
in that.

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So you can buy fresh or
frozen, but how does
somebody who lives in

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a food desert get their
vegetables?

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Eat fewer processed meats.
Again, that's really easy
for us to say

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but when you're a working
mom and you have two jobs
and you have to get your child

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some food, what do you do?

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Avoid putting plastic
in the microwave or
dishwasher. This is

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probably the easiest thing
to do, but the hardest
thing for people to

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remember. So, we all
like our stuff. Our stuff
is really

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awesome. We can't
live without plastic and
I challenge

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you to try to go one day
without plastic and it's
clearly impossible

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because you're sitting
in a seat made of plastic.
But when you

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00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,990
put it in the microwave
and you heat it up, you

428
00:29:04,990 --> 00:29:09,110
destroy the integrity of the
plastic and those
molecules will be released

429
00:29:09,110 --> 00:29:13,270
and in fact, the CDC has
an exposure report that's
put out and updated

430
00:29:13,270 --> 00:29:17,340
every couple of years, and
if you were to go look that
up, you will see that

431
00:29:17,340 --> 00:29:21,460
all of phthalates in us.
All of us have bisphenols
in us. All of us

432
00:29:21,460 --> 00:29:25,590
have lead of in us. All of
us have mercury. All of us
have PCBs. All of us have

433
00:29:25,590 --> 00:29:29,680
dioxins. We are a

434
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,750
sludge, sorry Penny,
but we are, and it's
because of the way we

435
00:29:33,750 --> 00:29:37,860
like our stuff and how
we use the stuff that
we have in ways that it

436
00:29:37,860 --> 00:29:41,980
wasn't intended to be
used. Learn plastic
recycling codes.

437
00:29:41,980 --> 00:29:46,110
I mean I don't know.
I see the triangle. I put it
in the recycling bin and your

438
00:29:46,110 --> 00:29:50,260
hope for the best that that
recycler is going to actually
look and put them in the right

439
00:29:50,260 --> 00:29:54,350
bins and that doesn't happen.
And in fact, sometimes
the recycling

440
00:29:54,350 --> 00:29:58,480
doesn't go anywhere and
it goes into the landfill
anyway.

441
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,560
So pay attention to what's
happening in your
communities about

442
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,650
recycling. Wash your
hands. Okay. I mean
chemicals

443
00:30:06,650 --> 00:30:10,790
are everywhere, and the
last thing we need is to
have more of it in our bodies,

444
00:30:10,790 --> 00:30:14,920
so just wash your hands.
But lastly, speak out
because

445
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:19,000
I as an individual can go
and try to buy my non-shiny

446
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:23,090
red apple, as we were
talking about earlier.
We like shiny. We don't

447
00:30:23,090 --> 00:30:27,220
want to buy an apple
that's not shiny. But if

448
00:30:27,220 --> 00:30:31,340
you want pesticides on
it, then you can buy the
shiny apple.

449
00:30:31,340 --> 00:30:35,480
But I as a person can
make a choice of what I'm
gonna buy

450
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,570
but unless we collectively
speak out, nothing is
gonna change.

451
00:30:39,570 --> 00:30:43,660
So this is actually a
slide that I've shown before.

452
00:30:43,660 --> 00:30:47,760
Clearly not to you guys,
but this shows

453
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,890
children across Iowa that
are susceptible to food
insecurity.

454
00:30:51,890 --> 00:30:56,010
We're in Black Hawk
right?

455
00:30:56,010 --> 00:31:00,030
County? Okay so that's
20% of the children,

456
00:31:00,030 --> 00:31:04,130
and I'm trying to look up
what year this was. So
this was from last year.

457
00:31:04,130 --> 00:31:08,160
20% of children in
Black Hawk

458
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:12,310
County have food
insecurity. That means
they're not

459
00:31:12,310 --> 00:31:16,410
able to get food. They
either go hungry,

460
00:31:16,410 --> 00:31:20,520
they are missing a meal,
they're on food stamps, or

461
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,570
they have to have they're
free lunches at school
and they probably don't have

462
00:31:24,570 --> 00:31:28,700
a local grocery store that's
really close to them.

463
00:31:28,700 --> 00:31:32,790
So if they're nearest
grocery store is the
convenience store on the

464
00:31:32,790 --> 00:31:36,900
corner, then that means
they're not getting their
fresh fruits and vegetables.

465
00:31:36,900 --> 00:31:41,050
They are getting processed
meats. They are having

466
00:31:41,050 --> 00:31:45,200
the plastic containers that
are being touched onto

467
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,280
their foods. They

468
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:53,400
may or may not have a
working oven so they
have microwaves and were

469
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,530
putting the packaging
into the microwave.

470
00:31:57,530 --> 00:32:01,650
And I don't mean to be a
Debbie Downer on all this,
but

471
00:32:01,650 --> 00:32:05,730
I want to point out to you
that we are all here

472
00:32:05,730 --> 00:32:09,810
and that's awesome that
you guys have chosen to be
here, but there are those

473
00:32:09,810 --> 00:32:13,920
who are out in the community
who don't have access to
those vegetables

474
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:18,040
and if I have a choice of
whether they're gonna eat

475
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:22,130
the fruit and vegetable in
a can versus a

476
00:32:22,130 --> 00:32:26,300
fresh one, I'm gonna
give them the can, by
golly, because they need their

477
00:32:26,300 --> 00:32:30,400
fruits and vegetables. So
it's the risks and benefits
and the choices that have

478
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,520
to be made. It's easy for us
to try to make these,
but we need to help those

479
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,570
in the community. Alright,
so where do children learn?

480
00:32:38,570 --> 00:32:42,670
They learn in schools.
They learn in preschools.
They learn in our

481
00:32:42,670 --> 00:32:46,790
day cares. They learn
at home, clearly, but
I'm moving on to a different

482
00:32:46,790 --> 00:32:50,920
building. So there are a lot
of environmental hazards
in schools. We

483
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,990
actually have a schools
program that I help run

484
00:32:54,990 --> 00:32:59,070
that go out and do
assessments on the schools
and look at

485
00:32:59,070 --> 00:33:03,180
ventilation and all of
that. Looking at where the

486
00:33:03,180 --> 00:33:07,290
buses are stopped to make
sure that we don't have
diesel fumes going into the

487
00:33:07,290 --> 00:33:11,370
front door causing
asthma problems. But
many schools have indoor

488
00:33:11,370 --> 00:33:15,440
air quality problems. The
lighting can be poor so it;s
hard for kids to learn.

489
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,540
They have pests and
pesticides and the janitor,
if you were to go

490
00:33:19,540 --> 00:33:23,640
and look at their closet,
has all sorts of stuff in there

491
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,760
that I can't pronounce.
There are noise problems

492
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,860
in and around the schools.
There could be radon

493
00:33:31,860 --> 00:33:35,980
which is a naturally occurring
radioactive

494
00:33:35,980 --> 00:33:40,070
material that is, other
than smoking, can cause
lung cancer.

495
00:33:40,070 --> 00:33:44,140
There's the asbestos that
we talked about. There's lead.

496
00:33:44,140 --> 00:33:48,210
Lead in the drinking water
is a big issue.

497
00:33:48,210 --> 00:33:52,300
There can be mold, PCBs,
drinking water contamination,
cleaning processes

498
00:33:52,300 --> 00:33:56,380
and then even siting problems.
I've been called by a number

499
00:33:56,380 --> 00:34:00,480
of different places who want
to build a school but it's
right next to

500
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,540
some sort of mining
site where the trucks

501
00:34:04,540 --> 00:34:08,630
are driving on the dirt
road and raising up all
the dust and

502
00:34:08,630 --> 00:34:12,720
what's happening.
And in fact, if you
want to look at what

503
00:34:12,720 --> 00:34:16,820
can help student's success,
a piece of the puzzle has

504
00:34:16,820 --> 00:34:20,830
to be healthy school
environment, and part of
that environment

505
00:34:20,830 --> 00:34:24,900
is getting rid of all of these
things, or at least trying to
mitigate as

506
00:34:24,900 --> 00:34:28,970
much as we can to
improve their learning
ability.

507
00:34:28,970 --> 00:34:33,060
So some of the unaddressed
problems. These are

508
00:34:33,060 --> 00:34:37,210
things where the EPA
has tried to step up, or at
the last EPA has tried to

509
00:34:37,210 --> 00:34:41,360
step up. The carbon
monoxide and the

510
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:45,450
fumes from idling buses.
So there is a voluntary
school bus program

511
00:34:45,450 --> 00:34:49,570
that the EPA used to have
and they used to have grants
to actually retro fit

512
00:34:49,570 --> 00:34:53,740
old buses so it didn't
have poor

513
00:34:53,740 --> 00:34:57,840
exhaust coming out, but
right what we're doing
is really telling our

514
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,960
buses to turn off while
we're waiting for the kids to

515
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:06,090
load up. That doesn't
even happen though where
I live and I have to keep on

516
00:35:06,090 --> 00:35:10,240
telling them and they're
like, "Yeah, but then we
have to start it." Okay.

517
00:35:10,240 --> 00:35:14,330
Anyway, so that could
be a problem. Toxic

518
00:35:14,330 --> 00:35:18,450
debris from construction
or demolition inside the
occupied schools. So we're

519
00:35:18,450 --> 00:35:22,570
gonna do a lot of fixing
up around. And so you put
up new paints and new glues

520
00:35:22,570 --> 00:35:26,750
and new carpets and so the
formaldehyde and all of
those new adhesives that

521
00:35:26,750 --> 00:35:30,850
are used can cause
kids to have headaches,
the teachers to have

522
00:35:30,850 --> 00:35:34,890
headaches and have some
respiratory problems.

523
00:35:34,890 --> 00:35:39,050
Many schools are actually,
we were talking about
siting,

524
00:35:39,050 --> 00:35:43,140
where they were putting
them. We have these old
buildings and old super

525
00:35:43,140 --> 00:35:47,260
fund sites where we're
not able to do anything
with and so

526
00:35:47,260 --> 00:35:51,370
people have the great
idea that we're just gonna
put a school on top of it.

527
00:35:51,370 --> 00:35:55,510
We'll just put a playground and
it'll be fine.

528
00:35:55,510 --> 00:35:59,580
And that's why we have
the siting guidelines that we
have. And then

529
00:35:59,580 --> 00:36:03,680
they also have a school
clean out. So I'm

530
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,800
dating myself a little bit.
We would actually have

531
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,910
the vats of mercury on
the

532
00:36:11,910 --> 00:36:16,070
cupboards in the
chemistry class
or your

533
00:36:16,070 --> 00:36:20,170
flammable items next to
the bunsen burner. They
always thought that was a

534
00:36:20,170 --> 00:36:24,310
really good idea. And I've
actually had kids who
have

535
00:36:24,310 --> 00:36:28,440
stolen the mercury out of
the chemistry classes

536
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,550
so it was really popular
when the Terminator 2
movie came out, and

537
00:36:32,550 --> 00:36:36,640
I'm dating myself again,
but they had the mercury
guy. That was really

538
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,730
cool so they'd go and
they'd play with it and then
they got into trouble.

539
00:36:40,730 --> 00:36:44,850
I also had one kid who
decided that for show-and-tell
he'd bring his mercury

540
00:36:44,850 --> 00:36:48,940
to school. So his dad had
been collecting a whole
bunch of mercury

541
00:36:48,940 --> 00:36:53,020
like from batteries or
something. He was just putting
them in like this big

542
00:36:53,020 --> 00:36:57,110
vat garbage pail container.
And so for show-and-tell
the kid wen and got

543
00:36:57,110 --> 00:37:01,240
the tupperware and put
it in and took it to school
and opened it up and

544
00:37:01,240 --> 00:37:05,380
sloshed it around and
showed everybody this
mercury.

545
00:37:05,380 --> 00:37:09,450
It has been a huge
problem in many schools.

546
00:37:09,450 --> 00:37:13,530
Which has led to,
obviously, children send home

547
00:37:13,530 --> 00:37:17,660
because we've had to
shut the schools down.

548
00:37:17,660 --> 00:37:21,810
Obviously outbreaks of
infectious disease. Lice is
not an infectious

549
00:37:21,810 --> 00:37:25,910
disease. You can go to
school with lice. Don't
let them tell you

550
00:37:25,910 --> 00:37:29,970
you can't. Air toxics from
nearby sources. We have

551
00:37:29,970 --> 00:37:34,100
the caulking has PCBs, and
then there's obviously water

552
00:37:34,100 --> 00:37:38,230
quality issues, especially
now as we're dealing with

553
00:37:38,230 --> 00:37:42,320
lead. So I want to talk

554
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,410
a little bit about
pesticides. A lot of
pesticides are used in

555
00:37:46,410 --> 00:37:50,580
schools. So what is a pest?

556
00:37:50,580 --> 00:37:54,740
It's a living organism,
which means the
cockroach and the mouse.

557
00:37:54,740 --> 00:37:58,810
Insects. Also could
be weeds and mold.

558
00:37:58,810 --> 00:38:02,890
And why do we have them
there? Because a lot of
water problems and a lot

559
00:38:02,890 --> 00:38:07,000
of problems within the
school integrity

560
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,110
of the building. And so, again,
what we tend to do is we tend to

561
00:38:11,110 --> 00:38:15,190
see the pest, and then
instead of taking care of
the problem, like we do

562
00:38:15,190 --> 00:38:19,270
in our home, same thing
happens in the school.
We're just gonna put the

563
00:38:19,270 --> 00:38:23,370
pesticide down.

564
00:38:23,370 --> 00:38:27,470
A lot of people, we talk
about pesticides more as
insecticides, but we also

565
00:38:27,470 --> 00:38:31,540
have a lot of different
sidle products

566
00:38:31,540 --> 00:38:35,610
that can kill stuff.
And so

567
00:38:35,610 --> 00:38:39,700
when you try to weigh
the risks of

568
00:38:39,700 --> 00:38:43,730
pests versus the risks
of pesticides,

569
00:38:43,730 --> 00:38:47,850
you kinda have to weigh
one or the other. You
clearly don't want the

570
00:38:47,850 --> 00:38:51,910
pests there, right, because
we don't want to
exacerbate asthma.

571
00:38:51,910 --> 00:38:55,990
We don't want allergies,

572
00:38:55,990 --> 00:39:00,070
but we also want to
minimize those exposures
to the pesticides

573
00:39:00,070 --> 00:39:04,180
and we also know that
children are exposed
to pesticides

574
00:39:04,180 --> 00:39:08,270
everywhere, unfortunately,
in their homes and their
diets so

575
00:39:08,270 --> 00:39:12,330
a little bit in school is
not gonna be a problem.

576
00:39:12,330 --> 00:39:16,380
That's not true.
We know that

577
00:39:16,380 --> 00:39:20,500
and what we know about
the pesticides, and what the
EPA

578
00:39:20,500 --> 00:39:24,630
will tell you and makes
most of their

579
00:39:24,630 --> 00:39:28,660
regulations based on,
is acute, high dose
exposure

580
00:39:28,660 --> 00:39:32,730
rather than the long-term,
low dose exposure. But we
know

581
00:39:32,730 --> 00:39:36,810
that long-term, low dose
exposure can cause

582
00:39:36,810 --> 00:39:40,910
problems with short-term
memory, attention span.
It has been

583
00:39:40,910 --> 00:39:45,040
associated, especially in
migrant workers like in
California, there are a lot

584
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:49,100
of studies that have shown
that it's been linked to

585
00:39:49,100 --> 00:39:53,180
some leukemias and I'm
sure you've heard about
the glyphosate and the

586
00:39:53,180 --> 00:39:57,230
lymphoma issues.
That's clearly a

587
00:39:57,230 --> 00:40:01,330
decision by the courts is
not a scientific study

588
00:40:01,330 --> 00:40:05,400
so you can only weigh that

589
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:09,470
for what is. However,

590
00:40:09,470 --> 00:40:13,590
there have been links,
you know, pesticides, too,
on problems

591
00:40:13,590 --> 00:40:17,710
and risk for childhood
asthma. And so, again I
know I'm speaking

592
00:40:17,710 --> 00:40:21,820
to the choir a lot here,
but about the fact that we
need to really look into

593
00:40:21,820 --> 00:40:25,890
integrative pest management
so we get rid of the pest and
we don't have to have the

594
00:40:25,890 --> 00:40:30,060
pesticides. There are
a lot of ways to take care
of those

595
00:40:30,060 --> 00:40:34,170
pests, and we really
need to focus on that so
that we actually

596
00:40:34,170 --> 00:40:38,250
don't have to weigh the
risks and the benefits of a
pest vs pesticide. We don't

597
00:40:38,250 --> 00:40:42,330
need to have either of them
and how best can we
get rid of them.

598
00:40:42,330 --> 00:40:46,400
So I do want to talk
a little bit about

599
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,570
lead in drinking water.
Obviously the stuff with

600
00:40:50,570 --> 00:40:54,690
Flint, we found out that
there was lead

601
00:40:54,690 --> 00:40:58,760
because of the re-routing
of the water system

602
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,820
from Detroit to the Flint
River and the lack of
corrosive

603
00:41:02,820 --> 00:41:06,930
anti-corrosive chemicals
that were put in. It did

604
00:41:06,930 --> 00:41:11,050
allow for corrosion of those
pipes and more children

605
00:41:11,050 --> 00:41:15,110
to have elevated lead
levels. What we have found

606
00:41:15,110 --> 00:41:19,210
though in doing all of these
assessments, is that we also

607
00:41:19,210 --> 00:41:23,290
know that there is lead in
schools. So the EPA has

608
00:41:23,290 --> 00:41:27,340
their regulatory standard
or action

609
00:41:27,340 --> 00:41:31,460
level is 15 parts per
billion. That is not a health

610
00:41:31,460 --> 00:41:35,550
based standard. That
standard was 40 years
ago put into place because

611
00:41:35,550 --> 00:41:39,620
it was a feasibility standard.
What could we get lead
levels

612
00:41:39,620 --> 00:41:43,730
in water to be at that
time. So 40

613
00:41:43,730 --> 00:41:47,770
years ago, technology
only allowed us to get 15
parts

614
00:41:47,770 --> 00:41:51,830
per billion. We can get
it down to less than one
now, but

615
00:41:51,830 --> 00:41:55,850
we don't and a lot of
people are basing it on
that 15

616
00:41:55,850 --> 00:41:59,920
parts per billion, but it's
gonna require an act of
Congress, and I'm not

617
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:04,020
kidding to change, actually,
what that level

618
00:42:04,020 --> 00:42:08,150
is. Actually, it's probably
just EPA that needs to
change that and they

619
00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:12,210
have been having this
discussion for the last 4
years, and as I've sat on

620
00:42:12,210 --> 00:42:16,300
the Children's Health
Protection Advisory
Committee, it hasn't gone

621
00:42:16,300 --> 00:42:20,400
anywhere and so it needs
to be changed to a
health-based standard. So

622
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:24,500
in order to actually prevent
lead from being in the
water that our children

623
00:42:24,500 --> 00:42:28,580
drink in in schools,
schools are supposed to
let the water

624
00:42:28,580 --> 00:42:32,600
run for like 15 minutes,
well it says 2-3 minutes, but
I've always heard 15

625
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:36,680
minutes, like on Monday
morning after a weekend
or a Monday morning

626
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:40,800
after a long break to flush
the system so that all of
the lead that's

627
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,840
been sitting there in the
pipes will be flushed
out

628
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,930
and then the water that the
kids drink later will be fine.

629
00:42:48,930 --> 00:42:53,010
Nobody does that. And
they shouldn't have to
do that

630
00:42:53,010 --> 00:42:57,100
but the municipality is a

631
00:42:57,100 --> 00:43:01,220
charge of the pipes up to
the sidewalk, and then it's
the homeowner or the

632
00:43:01,220 --> 00:43:05,250
school that's supposed to
change the pipes in the
school or in the home

633
00:43:05,250 --> 00:43:09,320
And so if you've got old
pipes in the home or in
the school,

634
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:13,410
it's up to them to actually
them to fix it

635
00:43:13,410 --> 00:43:17,520
and this is happening
across the country. In
order to change

636
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:21,620
all of out will cost
billions of dollars.

637
00:43:21,620 --> 00:43:25,690
But bottled water is not
the answer either, right?
I mean we just talked

638
00:43:25,690 --> 00:43:29,770
about plastics and that's
not a good idea.

639
00:43:29,770 --> 00:43:34,030
Alright, moving on to where
children play.

640
00:43:34,030 --> 00:43:38,160
There was a great study
that was done

641
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:42,260
by asking teenagers, and
teenagers are really where

642
00:43:42,260 --> 00:43:46,350
a lot of the change is
gonna happen, so I'm
so happy to see

643
00:43:46,350 --> 00:43:50,490
the young folks, because
they are going to the voice
because we know

644
00:43:50,490 --> 00:43:54,640
that they care about the
environment and we know
that they care about climate

645
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,740
change. And so kids

646
00:43:58,740 --> 00:44:02,810
know where it's at. So we do

647
00:44:02,810 --> 00:44:06,900
know that unstructured
outdoor play can reduce
stress, it helps maintain

648
00:44:06,900 --> 00:44:11,020
a healthy weight. The
AP says that children
should be active for

649
00:44:11,020 --> 00:44:15,080
at least 60 minutes a day
and I don't know

650
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:19,100
many kids who are
active for 60 minutes a day.

651
00:44:19,100 --> 00:44:23,200
I have 4 teenagers and
they're just sitting. They're
not doing anything.

652
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:27,320
But they need the parents,
and the family, and the
friends

653
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:31,410
and we need all of us
together as a community to
get that done, because they're

654
00:44:31,410 --> 00:44:35,490
not gonna do it by
themselves. And kids
grow up right? And so

655
00:44:35,490 --> 00:44:39,610
they see, this is in
Baltimore, so it's not
Cedar Falls, but

656
00:44:39,610 --> 00:44:43,740
again, it might be
happening here.

657
00:44:43,740 --> 00:44:47,840
We need to have these
community events where
we pick up the trash

658
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,950
and we actually help to
make our outdoor

659
00:44:51,950 --> 00:44:56,020
areas clean for kids where
they play.

660
00:44:56,020 --> 00:45:00,120
And climate change is
real and I challenge

661
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:04,240
anybody who wants to tell
me that it's not, but it is
real and

662
00:45:04,240 --> 00:45:08,380
in fact if you look at,
just looking at

663
00:45:08,380 --> 00:45:12,450
a drought, you will see
Iowa in there, right. So that's

664
00:45:12,450 --> 00:45:16,560
August 28th, 2018 of
where

665
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,680
the drought monitor has
us. It's not Cedar
Falls, it's

666
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:24,790
right south of it, but Iowa
is in a drought. You
wouldn't know that from

667
00:45:24,790 --> 00:45:28,870
today, from me driving
up here, but it is true and
because

668
00:45:28,870 --> 00:45:32,990
of the drought, when we
do get the rains, it's
destroyed the

669
00:45:32,990 --> 00:45:37,110
land. It's hard for that
water to actually seep and
then that's when you also

670
00:45:37,110 --> 00:45:41,220
get flooding. And then if
you look at- I don't know
if I can do this

671
00:45:41,220 --> 00:45:45,310
on here if you can see
this, but this is

672
00:45:45,310 --> 00:45:49,390
again more changes in-
this is actually

673
00:45:49,390 --> 00:45:53,510
vector-born. These are
tick born disease and
lyme disease

674
00:45:53,510 --> 00:45:57,640
and how things have
changed

675
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,750
over time just because
of where those vectors
are moving.

676
00:46:01,750 --> 00:46:05,850
So you can see that just
in this four year period
of

677
00:46:05,850 --> 00:46:09,950
time that everything is
moving north and it's more

678
00:46:09,950 --> 00:46:14,070
abundant in that Midwest.
This was just in

679
00:46:14,070 --> 00:46:18,150
July 20, this was actually
in Des Moines. The mayor
said that they

680
00:46:18,150 --> 00:46:22,230
have cited climate
change

681
00:46:22,230 --> 00:46:26,300
as the cause for
extreme weather. So,
how did we get here?

682
00:46:26,300 --> 00:46:30,390
So I know I don't have
a lot of time, so we're
not gonna spend

683
00:46:30,390 --> 00:46:34,520
a whole bunch of time
on this, but back when
we had World War 2,

684
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:38,640
we used a chemical, DDT,

685
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:42,730
for warfare.

686
00:46:42,730 --> 00:46:46,810
It helped us, not
to poison people,

687
00:46:46,810 --> 00:46:50,910
but it was actually helped
to get rid of all the bad
insects

688
00:46:50,910 --> 00:46:55,020
when we were fighting over
in Japan.

689
00:46:55,020 --> 00:46:59,180
We spent a lot of money
on DDT and so

690
00:46:59,180 --> 00:47:03,260
when the war was done,
we had this stuff, and we
were like, we have to use it.

691
00:47:03,260 --> 00:47:07,360
This is this great stuff,
so we're just gonna use
it here.

692
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:11,490
So we used it here and
there wasn't anybody
regulating that or anything

693
00:47:11,490 --> 00:47:15,630
and what they found over
time is that the

694
00:47:15,630 --> 00:47:19,740
number of bald eagles
were actually going down,
and when they looked

695
00:47:19,740 --> 00:47:23,850
they found that it was
because the egg shells,
the DDT was actually

696
00:47:23,850 --> 00:47:28,010
ruining the integrity of the
egg shell, and so
when the

697
00:47:28,010 --> 00:47:32,110
eagles sat on them, they
crushed them.

698
00:47:32,110 --> 00:47:36,200
They offspring were
obviously not gonna live.
We have Rachel Carson

699
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:40,300
who then was studying
this, she was an
environmentalist and a

700
00:47:40,300 --> 00:47:44,420
scientist and she wrote
The Silent Spring, which
is a book

701
00:47:44,420 --> 00:47:48,440
that helped changed the
world. It was because of
that book that

702
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:52,500
we have the Environmental
Protection Agency, sort of.
She went in and talked

703
00:47:52,500 --> 00:47:56,610
to Congress and they
why isn't anybody doing
this? Why can't we

704
00:47:56,610 --> 00:48:00,720
pay attention to this? They
formed, under Nixon,

705
00:48:00,720 --> 00:48:04,860
the Environmental
Protection in the '70s to
help regulate that but

706
00:48:04,860 --> 00:48:08,930
where as the Food and
Drug Administration will

707
00:48:08,930 --> 00:48:13,030
have these long studies to
look at drugs and make
sure that

708
00:48:13,030 --> 00:48:17,070
they are safe and
effective and we have
this surveillance

709
00:48:17,070 --> 00:48:21,190
for clinical trials. Phase 1,
phase 2, phase 3,
and then post-marketing

710
00:48:21,190 --> 00:48:25,270
surveillance and then we
take drugs off the market
even after we've studied it

711
00:48:25,270 --> 00:48:29,350
for 15 years. The EPA does
not do that. The EPA
doesn't have the

712
00:48:29,350 --> 00:48:33,460
authority to do that. So
chemicals that are
regulated

713
00:48:33,460 --> 00:48:37,560
by the Environmental
Protection Agency, they
go through with some

714
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:41,690
studies, they need to be
effective for what they're
putting it out on, but they

715
00:48:41,690 --> 00:48:45,800
don't have to be safe.
They don't have to be-
I mean obviously they're

716
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,880
not gonna let you put
something that's gonna be
killing people right away,

717
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,990
but nobody studied the
long, chronic use of these

718
00:48:53,990 --> 00:48:58,120
chemicals, and so we
don't know.

719
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:02,210
In order for the EPA to
do something about it,
harm has to be shown to

720
00:49:02,210 --> 00:49:06,220
people and it's interesting,
the only chemical that EPA

721
00:49:06,220 --> 00:49:10,310
has been able to actually
get off the market

722
00:49:10,310 --> 00:49:14,440
has been asbestos, and
that was recently back in
the news because they're

723
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:18,510
trying to bring asbestos
back. It's like "What?".
So one thing that EPA

724
00:49:18,510 --> 00:49:22,620
sort of did well, and
now it's coming back.

725
00:49:22,620 --> 00:49:26,700
And in fact we don't know,
as we talk about
neurotoxicity,

726
00:49:26,700 --> 00:49:30,840
there are over 85,000,
probably more than
100,000 chemicals that

727
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:34,930
are regulated by the
Environmental Protection
Agency right now, but we

728
00:49:34,930 --> 00:49:38,980
only know about 10 that
are neurotoxic to children

729
00:49:38,980 --> 00:49:43,040
and it's not because the
other 99,990 are not

730
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:47,090
neurotoxic, it's just we
don't know because
nobody is studying it

731
00:49:47,090 --> 00:49:51,170
because they're not
required to. They don't
have to in order to get a

732
00:49:51,170 --> 00:49:55,280
chemical out there for
us to use in the
environment. Completely

733
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:59,340
different than the Food
and Drug Administration.
I was asked by Audrey,

734
00:49:59,340 --> 00:50:03,410
if there was one thing that
you wish people would
understand is that

735
00:50:03,410 --> 00:50:07,510
they're not the same. FDA
and EPA are totally
different and chemicals

736
00:50:07,510 --> 00:50:11,630
that are out in our
environment are not
regulated in the same way

737
00:50:11,630 --> 00:50:15,660
and they don't have to
be safe to get out on
the market.

738
00:50:15,660 --> 00:50:19,760
So it's a result of
the way we do

739
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,850
things. We know
that- this is front
pesticide drift.

740
00:50:23,850 --> 00:50:27,960
I saw a patient a year ago
that was

741
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:32,060
exposed, in Iowa, to
pesticide drift.

742
00:50:32,060 --> 00:50:36,130
He had a rash and came
down to see me. We know

743
00:50:36,130 --> 00:50:40,280
that pesticides can cause
harm because we have
pesticides out there. We

744
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:44,390
want pesticides to actually
kill pests. That's what
they do.

745
00:50:44,390 --> 00:50:48,490
But in order to do that,
the drift actually can

746
00:50:48,490 --> 00:50:52,560
cause harm to humans.
So we know that it can
cause nerve problems.

747
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:56,660
We know that it can
cause problems within
the fetus and what

748
00:50:56,660 --> 00:51:00,780
happens in migrant
workers who are
exposed all the time. But this

749
00:51:00,780 --> 00:51:04,820
table that I showed you
here is actually from the Iowa
Department of Agriculture and

750
00:51:04,820 --> 00:51:08,890
Land Stewardship
Pesticide Bureau, and you
can see over the last

751
00:51:08,890 --> 00:51:12,980
6 years, the amount of

752
00:51:12,980 --> 00:51:17,100
documentation or calls
that have come into their
Pesticide Bureau

753
00:51:17,100 --> 00:51:21,220
on misuse of pesticides.
And if that's actually

754
00:51:21,220 --> 00:51:25,320
what's being reported, you
can imagine of how much
is being not reported and

755
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:29,460
what's happening. In
the picture on your right,
 or on your left,

756
00:51:29,460 --> 00:51:33,600
sorry, is obviously a
result of that too.

757
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:37,730
because we have farmers
who decide that they don't
want to use the

758
00:51:37,730 --> 00:51:41,800
special seeds that can
handle

759
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,890
some of those pesticides,
so when the drift happens,
farms are destroyed.

760
00:51:45,890 --> 00:51:50,000
And again, without that
community and have

761
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:54,080
that collective voice,
things won't change.

762
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:58,190
So when I see a
patient, I think about
all of

763
00:51:58,190 --> 00:52:02,290
that and I think about
where that child is
living, what is

764
00:52:02,290 --> 00:52:06,350
in their home, what are
they exposed to, what's
happening

765
00:52:06,350 --> 00:52:10,410
in the home from a social
level, because

766
00:52:10,410 --> 00:52:14,430
I can't just tell a family
that comes to me instead
of me going to them

767
00:52:14,430 --> 00:52:18,540
that your child is obese
and so go out and play

768
00:52:18,540 --> 00:52:22,650
in the park. Well
where's the park? Are
they obese because of

769
00:52:22,650 --> 00:52:26,710
all the phalates that
are in their body? What
are you eating?

770
00:52:26,710 --> 00:52:30,770
Oh wait. Where can you
go to get food? How do you
do this? It's easy for

771
00:52:30,770 --> 00:52:34,870
us to sit there and say,
"Amen sister, that's right",
but

772
00:52:34,870 --> 00:52:38,900
unless we actually go out
and we make change
in our community, we

773
00:52:38,900 --> 00:52:43,020
are gonna still be in the
place that we are now.
I usually ask

774
00:52:43,020 --> 00:52:47,080
people if they know what
this is, but I'll just
tell you. So this is a

775
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:51,180
cage. This is the cage
that in the coal mines they
put the canary

776
00:52:51,180 --> 00:52:55,310
in and they'd shut it up and
then they'd put it down
into the coal mine.

777
00:52:55,310 --> 00:52:59,350
And then they'd wait a
little bit, well hours or
whatever,

778
00:52:59,350 --> 00:53:03,430
and they'd bring it up.
If the canary was still
alive,

779
00:53:03,430 --> 00:53:07,500
we got to go to work
today and off they
went down into the coal

780
00:53:07,500 --> 00:53:11,600
mine. If the canary was dead,
then clearly the air

781
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:15,700
quality was not so good
and so we should not go
down and work and so

782
00:53:15,700 --> 00:53:19,840
we're not gonna go to
work today. They were
probably a little excited

783
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:23,920
about that too, but, they
wouldn't. This is what we
do to children. This is what

784
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:28,000
we're doing to Penny,
sorry. 

785
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:32,090
We are very reactive.
We put them in this
cage and

786
00:53:32,090 --> 00:53:36,230
we get them all exposed
and then we bring them
back out and then we find

787
00:53:36,230 --> 00:53:40,310
out what we've done to
them, and unless we do
preventative care, if we do

788
00:53:40,310 --> 00:53:44,390
primary prevention, nothing
is gonna change. We
actually have to do things

789
00:53:44,390 --> 00:53:48,490
to prevent it happening
first before we poison
our children.

790
00:53:48,490 --> 00:53:52,540
And with that, I'll
end. Thank you.

791
00:53:52,540 --> 00:53:56,600
[applause]

792
00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:00,800
[applause] - Thank you so much.

793
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:04,900
We know have time for
questions and I'm sure

794
00:54:04,900 --> 00:54:09,000
we have a lot of
questions because that
was a lot of material that

795
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:13,170
was covered. We have some
microphones floating
around.

796
00:54:13,170 --> 00:54:17,240
Please raise your hand
and someone with a
microphone will come to

797
00:54:17,240 --> 00:54:21,360
you and it's really important,
even if you can project
really well, which I'm

798
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:25,490
sure a lot of you can, to
speak into the microphone
so that we can have a record

799
00:54:25,490 --> 00:54:29,510
of it for the recorded
session tonight.
So, questions?

800
00:54:29,510 --> 00:54:33,590
- I answered em all.

801
00:54:33,590 --> 00:54:37,660


802
00:54:37,660 --> 00:54:41,740
- Hi, I have a question.
I have a son that goes
to a new elementary

803
00:54:41,740 --> 00:54:45,860
school and what you just
said about the water really
concerns me. So as a

804
00:54:45,860 --> 00:54:50,040
parent, what should I
be doing? Should I
be filtering the water and

805
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:54,140
sending it to school or
sending- -Well so

806
00:54:54,140 --> 00:54:58,310
schools are required-
what I didn't mention
in there is that

807
00:54:58,310 --> 00:55:02,380
schools are required by
law to actually test the
water.

808
00:55:02,380 --> 00:55:06,460
So they should be
testing the water and you
can actually go to

809
00:55:06,460 --> 00:55:10,620
the school and say, "How
much lead is in your water?"

810
00:55:10,620 --> 00:55:14,790
and they should be able
to tell you that.

811
00:55:14,790 --> 00:55:18,860
The other thing I tell
families is, it depends
on

812
00:55:18,860 --> 00:55:22,980
and I hate to say this,
but we are exposed to
this stuff all the time

813
00:55:22,980 --> 00:55:27,140
unfortunately and there
are

814
00:55:27,140 --> 00:55:31,200
not risks to filtered water
or bottled water,

815
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:35,280
but there are still nutrients
and everything that are

816
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:39,350
actually, you know fluoride
for example, which is actually
good in water

817
00:55:39,350 --> 00:55:43,460
to be in the water. It
depends on how

818
00:55:43,460 --> 00:55:47,680
much water your child
drinks at school really.
If he's a

819
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:51,800
frequent water drinker,
stops by the water fountain
all the time,

820
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:55,890
and like guzzles it down,
then

821
00:55:55,890 --> 00:56:00,010
it's not, but if he's a
chocolate milk drinker at
school and that's kind of

822
00:56:00,010 --> 00:56:04,170
all he does or you send
water with him in his
lunch thing,

823
00:56:04,170 --> 00:56:08,220
then he's probably gonna
be okay, but the place to
start is really to find

824
00:56:08,220 --> 00:56:12,350
out what your school
knows about their
water.

825
00:56:12,350 --> 00:56:16,510


826
00:56:16,510 --> 00:56:20,590


827
00:56:20,590 --> 00:56:24,720
- Hi. Thank

828
00:56:24,720 --> 00:56:28,900
you for your presentation.
You mentioned that you
have four teenagers.

829
00:56:28,900 --> 00:56:32,990
What are the five most
important things that
you've done to

830
00:56:32,990 --> 00:56:37,080
make sure that your
teenagers are leading
healthy lives? What are

831
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:41,200
the five most important
things that you do on a
daily basis, weekly, monthly

832
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:45,380
yearly to make sure that
they're safe? I'm just curious.
- Yeah, okay. No that's good.

833
00:56:45,380 --> 00:56:49,450
I keep the medecines
up locked

834
00:56:49,450 --> 00:56:53,570
away and they to ask
me, now granted they're
teenagers so they do

835
00:56:53,570 --> 00:56:57,680
have a little bit more
responsibility, but you
know,

836
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:01,840
as a toxicologist, we
don't want things out there.

837
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:05,910
I don't have opiates, but
you know, that sort of
thing. I do

838
00:57:05,910 --> 00:57:09,980
fruits and vegetables so
I try to eat healthy as

839
00:57:09,980 --> 00:57:14,090
best I can. I'm lucky
that my kids do enjoy
eating

840
00:57:14,090 --> 00:57:18,270
mainly fruits but also
some vegetables and so
I'm able to

841
00:57:18,270 --> 00:57:22,350
get that down them. I
do not microwave plastic.
I do not

842
00:57:22,350 --> 00:57:26,420
put them in the
dishwasher. I wash them
by hand. I tend to use more

843
00:57:26,420 --> 00:57:30,560
glass than I do plastic
but unfortunately
sometimes you have to

844
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:34,720
buy things with plastic
on them. If I'm

845
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:38,810
gonna freeze things,
then I actually transfer
to a different, more

846
00:57:38,810 --> 00:57:42,890
solid plastic, I guess,
before I do that.
I exercise so I

847
00:57:42,890 --> 00:57:47,030
make sure that my kids
go and we have a
membership at the local

848
00:57:47,030 --> 00:57:51,220
Y and so we go and
do that.

849
00:57:51,220 --> 00:57:55,280
The fifth, we go outside.

850
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:59,450
I'm an outdoor person
and so we go camping
and do all those sort of

851
00:57:59,450 --> 00:58:03,490
things to appreciate
nature.

852
00:58:03,490 --> 00:58:07,640


853
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:11,810
- Hi, my name is Jenna.

854
00:58:11,810 --> 00:58:15,910
I kind of have a long
question that sort of
involves a couple

855
00:58:15,910 --> 00:58:20,010
of stories but I guess
the one that it

856
00:58:20,010 --> 00:58:24,150
most directly relates
to is my

857
00:58:24,150 --> 00:58:28,340
cousin and his wife have
a daughter who, when she
was

858
00:58:28,340 --> 00:58:32,430
like 2 and a half or three
had a tumor in the

859
00:58:32,430 --> 00:58:36,520
base of her brain and it was

860
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:40,680
really totally unexpected.
They only found out about
it because of a

861
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:44,740
seizure that they had on
this trip out in the middle of

862
00:58:44,740 --> 00:58:48,810
nowhere in Colorado.
Anyway, that's not
really relevant.

863
00:58:48,810 --> 00:58:52,880
I know that a lot of
different

864
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:57,020
cancers are caused due
to toxic chemicals and
obviously

865
00:58:57,020 --> 00:59:01,210
her mother and their
whole family have done
everything that they can

866
00:59:01,210 --> 00:59:05,310
to avoid all kinds of
plastics. Like there's no
plastic in their home. They're

867
00:59:05,310 --> 00:59:09,420
eating very, very specific
things only and they're

868
00:59:09,420 --> 00:59:13,630
doing hair tests to see
the toxic heavy metal
count in

869
00:59:13,630 --> 00:59:17,690
her body and stuff like
that. Anyways,

870
00:59:17,690 --> 00:59:21,740
I know there were
several heavy metals
that you

871
00:59:21,740 --> 00:59:25,870
mentioned that cause
certain cancers, one
of which is

872
00:59:25,870 --> 00:59:30,010
glyphosate and
lymphoma and that
connection. Do you know

873
00:59:30,010 --> 00:59:34,130
more about heavy metals
in brain tumors or
tumors of that nature?

874
00:59:34,130 --> 00:59:38,180
- So I am not
aware that metals
cause brain

875
00:59:38,180 --> 00:59:42,250
tumors. Glyphosate
is not a metal. It's a
chemical, it's a synthetic

876
00:59:42,250 --> 00:59:46,360
chemical. It's okay.
So there are a lot of
things in that story and

877
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:50,540
I'll try to make it brief
for everybody here.

878
00:59:50,540 --> 00:59:54,610
Unfortunately there are
things in the world of
chemicals that do cause

879
00:59:54,610 --> 00:59:58,680
cancer. It is most
likely multi-factorial in

880
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:02,800
that it's a chemical that
there's a

881
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:06,960
cancer gene that stimulates
the cancer gene to
actually happen. There are

882
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:11,050
a number of different brain
tumors out there and
some

883
01:00:11,050 --> 01:00:15,140
just unfortunately happen
and it's not from

884
01:00:15,140 --> 01:00:19,270
a chemical. It would
be hard for a three
year old to have

885
01:00:19,270 --> 01:00:23,450
that extensive amount
of a chemical exposure
in order for that to

886
01:00:23,450 --> 01:00:27,520
be the one and only cause
of a tumor.

887
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:31,600
Hair testing is not
good. That's not been

888
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:35,720
validated for many of the
metals, so I wouldn't
do that.

889
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:39,890
And it's hard because
we do know that

890
01:00:39,890 --> 01:00:43,960
cancer is caused by
chemicals and the

891
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:48,040
only metal that- arsenic
causes skin cancers, but

892
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:52,180
a lot of the synthetic
chemicals out there over
time,

893
01:00:52,180 --> 01:00:56,340
formaldehyde, for example,
causes nasal carcinoma.
Benzene causes

894
01:00:56,340 --> 01:01:00,450
leukemia. And so there
are little things like that,

895
01:01:00,450 --> 01:01:04,560
but those are mostly in
adults.

896
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:08,670
It could've actually been
part of an exposure to a
chemical, but a lot

897
01:01:08,670 --> 01:01:12,850
of it could due to
epigenetics, which I'm
not gonna talk about here,

898
01:01:12,850 --> 01:01:16,900
'cause it's really long
and involved to explain
it. It's a

899
01:01:16,900 --> 01:01:21,020
change in the gene
from maternal or paternal

900
01:01:21,020 --> 01:01:25,170
or exposures in generations
before that

901
01:01:25,170 --> 01:01:29,230
have resulted in it,
which is why primary
prevention is important.

902
01:01:29,230 --> 01:01:33,300


903
01:01:33,300 --> 01:01:37,410
- Thank you for your
presentation. I also
have four teenagers.

904
01:01:37,410 --> 01:01:41,430
- God bless you.
- Curious about what

905
01:01:41,430 --> 01:01:45,600
you had to say in terms
of your consulting or
committee work

906
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:49,670
with school systems.
Schools have so many
pressures on them

907
01:01:49,670 --> 01:01:53,750
to satisfy so many
different bodies,

908
01:01:53,750 --> 01:01:57,870
not to mention children
and their parents.
So how do you find

909
01:01:57,870 --> 01:02:02,040
them receiving that
information and do they
come to you

910
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:06,110
or are you driven to them
from pressure from
parents or

911
01:02:06,110 --> 01:02:10,210
can I hear a little bit
more about that?
So, through my work with

912
01:02:10,210 --> 01:02:14,340
the Pediatric Environmental
Health Specialty Unit, it's
a horrible name, but

913
01:02:14,340 --> 01:02:18,510
I am your pediatrician.
I'm the pediatrician for
environmental health for

914
01:02:18,510 --> 01:02:22,590
the region 7, which is
Iowa, Nebraska, Missouri,
and Kansas.

915
01:02:22,590 --> 01:02:26,700
So through our school
program and through
just me talking

916
01:02:26,700 --> 01:02:30,830
to pediatricians, I hear
about this kind of thing
frequently

917
01:02:30,830 --> 01:02:34,980
and I have gone to
community events, like
at schools, because they

918
01:02:34,980 --> 01:02:39,080
either hear about that
something that's going on
in their school, or it's

919
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:43,170
the lead in the water and
what are we gonna do
about that. It's really

920
01:02:43,170 --> 01:02:47,310
about good risk
communication.
As a

921
01:02:47,310 --> 01:02:51,430
toxicologist, it is the
dose that

922
01:02:51,430 --> 01:02:55,480
makes the poison.
There are some things,-
we are gonna have

923
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:59,600
exposures unfortunately.
Some are gonna

924
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:03,740
cause problems and
some in the doses that
we

925
01:03:03,740 --> 01:03:07,900
have them to, are not.
But we also don't have
a lot of

926
01:03:07,900 --> 01:03:11,950
studies on the mixture
exposures.

927
01:03:11,950 --> 01:03:16,070
You're exposed to
a sludge of things, and
those things can

928
01:03:16,070 --> 01:03:20,210
actually cause problems.
Unfortunately, the

929
01:03:20,210 --> 01:03:24,290
science in environmental
health has not cut
up to

930
01:03:24,290 --> 01:03:28,390
a lot of the other
specialties in medicine,
and so

931
01:03:28,390 --> 01:03:32,500
the information that we
have about those low
level exposures are not

932
01:03:32,500 --> 01:03:36,630
there. And when they are
there, they're done at
a population

933
01:03:36,630 --> 01:03:40,870
level, so they're done
at a whole

934
01:03:40,870 --> 01:03:44,980
thousands of children and
they've had exposure and
there's a percentage of them

935
01:03:44,980 --> 01:03:49,130
that may or may not have
something happen to them,
but it's not at the individual

936
01:03:49,130 --> 01:03:53,280
level. I can't take
 that study and come
down and say

937
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:57,350
"Your child has been
exposed to lead they're
going to have

938
01:03:57,350 --> 01:04:01,440
ADHD". I can't do that,
so we talk about what
those

939
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:05,550
risks are and ways
that we can

940
01:04:05,550 --> 01:04:09,720
overcome

941
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:13,810
them, either with
nutrition, good parenting,
that kind of thing.

942
01:04:13,810 --> 01:04:17,880
Some parents don't
like what I have to say,
because I'm not trying to

943
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:22,020
downplay it, but it's also
trying to tell them in reality
what we have

944
01:04:22,020 --> 01:04:26,210
to work with. But at the
end I say, if

945
01:04:26,210 --> 01:04:30,280
you don't like what
your child is being
exposed to, I totally agree

946
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:34,390
with you, we have to
change the system. And
so it's this collective voice

947
01:04:34,390 --> 01:04:38,520
going to our legislators and
making it happen, because
we are not gonna be able

948
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:42,590
to do it on an
individual level.

949
01:04:42,590 --> 01:04:46,760
- So I know that
there's

950
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:50,830
been debates about
whether GMOs are
healthy for children

951
01:04:50,830 --> 01:04:54,980
and for health. If GMOs-,
I know sometimes
GMOs

952
01:04:54,980 --> 01:04:59,120
can make foods

953
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:03,180
less susceptible to
pests, if GMOs are
helping to minimize

954
01:05:03,180 --> 01:05:07,290
pesticides, do you think
GMOs are a better
option or

955
01:05:07,290 --> 01:05:11,400
what's your opinion
on GMOs?

956
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:15,520
- Right. Obviously the
FDA has come out and
said

957
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:19,710
that GMOs are safe,
and most of the studies
that I have looked at

958
01:05:19,710 --> 01:05:23,760
in the folks within the
AP have actually

959
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:27,900
agreed with that.

960
01:05:27,900 --> 01:05:32,050
That's what life is.

961
01:05:32,050 --> 01:05:36,130
We're all hybrids of
things and it's survival
of the fittest and

962
01:05:36,130 --> 01:05:40,180
all those other fancy
things that we could
talk about, but we've

963
01:05:40,180 --> 01:05:44,320
all been here because
we have been modified
over time.

964
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:48,540
Not as quickly as
clearly as GMO

965
01:05:48,540 --> 01:05:52,630
foods that are out there.
But I also know

966
01:05:52,630 --> 01:05:56,730
that GMO, not because
it's

967
01:05:56,730 --> 01:06:00,810
a good way to go,
have helped

968
01:06:00,810 --> 01:06:04,970
provide food to those
who don't have food.

969
01:06:04,970 --> 01:06:09,030
Again, it's hard to catch
up with the environmental

970
01:06:09,030 --> 01:06:13,100
studies, but I think at this
point, I tend to agree with
the FDA

971
01:06:13,100 --> 01:06:17,250
that they are safe and

972
01:06:17,250 --> 01:06:21,380
can be helpful to feed
those

973
01:06:21,380 --> 01:06:25,390
who aren't getting food.

974
01:06:25,390 --> 01:06:29,550


975
01:06:29,550 --> 01:06:33,600


976
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:37,720
- We have time for one
more question and then

977
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:41,820
we're gonna wrap things
up, but please feel free
to stick around to pester

978
01:06:41,820 --> 01:06:45,980
Dr. Lowry a little more.
- You're not a pester
though, so yeah.

979
01:06:45,980 --> 01:06:50,070
- I'll pester you with my
last question.

980
01:06:50,070 --> 01:06:54,140
I just wanted to, thanks
for speaking tonight, and
I just wanted to ask in

981
01:06:54,140 --> 01:06:58,230
terms of environmental
health over your career
so far, have you seen

982
01:06:58,230 --> 01:07:02,380
maybe a couple areas
where things have gotten
worse in terms of

983
01:07:02,380 --> 01:07:06,570
children's environmental health,
and then on the optimistic
side, where

984
01:07:06,570 --> 01:07:10,640
two or things where things
have gotten better in terms
of children's environmental

985
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:14,750
health.
- Better.

986
01:07:14,750 --> 01:07:18,900
Climate is worse.

987
01:07:18,900 --> 01:07:22,950
And it's so sad and it
just

988
01:07:22,950 --> 01:07:27,030
makes me want to cry all
the time. We were

989
01:07:27,030 --> 01:07:31,110
actually going in a good-ish
direction for a while,
and clearly

990
01:07:31,110 --> 01:07:35,230
we're not going in that
direction anymore with

991
01:07:35,230 --> 01:07:39,470
clean power plan
rollbacks and all that
sort of thing.

992
01:07:39,470 --> 01:07:43,530
Things got better after
the Clean Air Act and
the Clean Water

993
01:07:43,530 --> 01:07:47,570
Act. If you see pictures
and you hear about the
history before then, I mean

994
01:07:47,570 --> 01:07:51,760
clearly we are in a much
better place before then.
But that was actually before

995
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:55,940
my time, so that doesn't
answer your question.

996
01:07:55,940 --> 01:07:59,990
Lead, we are making baby
steps I think

997
01:07:59,990 --> 01:08:04,090
in getting recognition
that primary prevention

998
01:08:04,090 --> 01:08:08,230
needs to occur.
Unfortunately we just
keep finding

999
01:08:08,230 --> 01:08:12,310
more sources, so
that's good and a
bad

1000
01:08:12,310 --> 01:08:16,380
but at least we're talking
about it. And while it

1001
01:08:16,380 --> 01:08:20,470
may sound a little bit
kooky that I would say that
this is good, but I think that

1002
01:08:20,470 --> 01:08:24,580
conversations like this, I
think more people are
becoming more aware

1003
01:08:24,580 --> 01:08:28,790
that the environment is
important and having

1004
01:08:28,790 --> 01:08:32,900
that collective voice to
come together and talk
about it more.

1005
01:08:32,900 --> 01:08:36,990
That hasn't necessarily
helped the health of
children. We know that

1006
01:08:36,990 --> 01:08:41,130
obesity rates are on the
rise, ADHD is on the
rise and why is

1007
01:08:41,130 --> 01:08:45,230
all of that? And we don't
get to let our children

1008
01:08:45,230 --> 01:08:49,300
go outside anymore,
and so that's bad.
But I think

1009
01:08:49,300 --> 01:08:53,450
having these
conversations will help
more it in the right direction.

1010
01:08:53,450 --> 01:08:57,540
So I was more of a
Debbie Downer than you
had hoped.

1011
01:08:57,540 --> 01:09:01,640
That's what I think.

1012
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:05,790
- Great. Well,

1013
01:09:05,790 --> 01:09:09,900
just to wrap things up with
a very, very brief reminder.
September 20th

1014
01:09:09,900 --> 01:09:13,990
at 7:00 PM, that's a
Thursday again.
Elizabeth Colbert

1015
01:09:13,990 --> 01:09:18,090
will be our next
speaker in the lecture
series, so we hope to

1016
01:09:18,090 --> 01:09:22,280
see you all then. But let's
give Dr. Lowry one more
round of applause here.

1017
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:26,350
Thank you so much.

1018
01:09:26,350 --> 01:09:30,440
And please stick around

1019
01:09:30,440 --> 01:09:34,580
if you have additional
questions. We'll be here for
a little bit. Thank you

1020
01:09:34,580 --> 01:09:38,640
so much.

1021
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:42,660
[outro music]

1022
01:09:42,660 --> 01:09:46,660


1023
01:09:46,660 --> 01:09:50,019